After a week or so of intense debate around the legitimacy of the Natural Solutions Foundation and its founders, Bert Stubblebine and his wife Dr. Rima Laibow, I am ready to draw some conclusions. We have been lucky because Shahee of Tribal Globe has been able to directly confront them, through their forum, on the issues that draw suspicion to them. So we have some real time responses.
So far, they have denied being connected to any of the links that were uncovered in the first round of investigations. “Bert has exacty no, none, zip, nada, connection with Homeland Security, the CIA, Black Ops or any other related activity or organization.” says Rima Laibow. Doesn't really explain why this link dated 2003 is claiming he DOES have links to Homeland Security: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_go1613/is_200307/ai_n9091297. In reference to this odd Russian mind programming video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB3Qpe_7wuA, “This is a lie, that is what it is. I have no, repeat, no connection with Psy Tech, nor have I ever met or worked with Dr. Smirnoff or his technology.” says Bert Stubblebine this last week. There has been no response to this link that has Stubblebine sitting on the board of a Canadian defense contractor that appears to be current http://canadiansub.com/Board.html
Concerning health business, there are two distinct and seemingly credible opponents to NSF: Dr. Rath Foundation and the IAHF. Both are written off as disgruntled opponents. Rima Laibow says, “The Rath Foundation (all they need is a "W") has said, to our faces and in print, that it is the policy of their Executive Committee to attack us at every opportunity. They do so with misinformation and disinformation. Why would they do that? Whom do they work for? I have no idea. They, along with John Hammell, spread astonishing lies about us on a regular basis which then take on a life of their own because they are repeated on the internet. Whom does he work for? Why would he do that? Again, I hesitate to speculate. I know whom we work for: health freedom. I know why we do what we do: because we think it is right. We never, never attack anyone. They attack us all the time. We are effective. They are not. What does that suggest?” Hmmmm, more questions.
This is what the Dr. Rath Foundation has to say about NSF: http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-beware.htm. Taken off the IAHF website: “International Advocates for Health Freedom was started in 1996 by John C. Hammell, Legislative Advocate, to catalyze global opposition to a pharma driven effort to ban consumer access to vitamins and minerals within the therapeutic range via the UN's Codex Alimentarius Commission.” This article, compiled by IAHF, dissects key points of dissension between what NSF is saying and actually doing: http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3312735.htm.
So there are two seemingly reputable health organizations working against Codex who are not working with The Natural Solutions Foundation and in fact warn against them. The background of Bert Stubblebine (Major General Albert N. Stubblebine III (US Army, Ret.)) formerly in charge of the remote viewing program for the US army, does seem at odds with health advocate now. They play the martyr card - “We struggle each and every month to pay the bills that we incur fighting for people's rights - including but not limited to our own - and last month had to, once again, put our own money into keeping the Natural Solutions Foundation going.We gave up a lucrative medical practice to live out of a suitcase, have constant money worries, travel to places I hate going to. We are paid nothing by anyone but the people (457 of them so far this month making donations as small as $2.00) We live (very conservatively) on Bert's pension which we are concerned might disappear because of his forthrightness. We sold our wonderful home on a magnificent piece of land so that we could have the money to be so effective that we are abused on a regular basis.” Boo-Hoo. Do you see me complaining about being bankrupt? I love my $700.00/ month life. They use snake oil salesman terminology in their sales pitches, “You can make a friendly financial agreement with the Santa Clara community in order to provide the funds to purchase the land, we will contract with you to pay you the interest on that loan in a business-like fashion.” Business-like fashion? Good enough for me!
At best these two are benign kooks that may be a little soft headed or counter programmed after all the years in military intelligence. Maybe some of it backfired? Their work may or may not be effective. One thing is for sure, Codex is a behemoth of an issue. It is over most people's heads in terms of it's scope, it's structure and it's terminology. So it would be an easy issue to fool people with.
At worst these two are the counter intelligence disinformants getting paid by big pharma and government to distort the issues as their opponents claim. And perhaps Stubblebine really does sit on the board of Canadian Submarine Technologies. This is taken right of the website: “With his wife, Rima E. Laibow, MD, General Stubblebine has been engaged in pioneering research on the use of frequency in medicine and national security and is one of the two designers of AEGIS, a major Homeland Security private initiative.” Maybe he is on the American Board for Certification in Homeland Security too.
Either way, I see no reason to defend these people as none of their claimed good works can really be proven anyway. I wouldn't recommend getting involved with them. Too many red flags. They are not even raw foodists. You know, if this is the worst the NWO has then I think we aren't in too much trouble. I must agree though that they have accomplished one thing on their agenda, to WASTE MY TIME.